Welcome to Michigan Hockeycast 7.7, where even Alex and I had a couple of goals on the weekend.

Yeah. Okay, before we get going, I just needed to say that Craig will not let us record in this room anymore unless we tell people to buy margin soft, which seems like a product that most of you out there need.

So if you are looking for a great holiday gift, get someone margin soft before the price goes up.

Secondly, Alex, you have recently started a new podcast that has nothing to do with hockey,

so it fits this segment perfectly.

Do you want to tell people about your new podcast?

Recent is a relative term.

This year?

Yeah, well, we've been doing it since the, since like late August.

It is the Pain and Drain show with my buddy, Zach. Actually, no, he named it. Okay.

My buddy Zach Payne. I've been tweeting about it, so if you've seen my online profile, then, you know, I promoted it at different points. Listenership's been higher than anticipated so far. We haven't really had many expectations,

but it is a weekly Detroit Lions podcast featuring a rather familiar format from the MGOPod

in terms of just the, you know, coherent way we talk through

things, offense, defense, special teams, and then some games around the league, we don't do

like a full Jamie segment, but the- Do you do the NFC North? No, I mean, yeah.

NFC Norris. We always talk about the NFC North. Okay, because it's relevant.

Yeah, and then whatever other interesting games.

And nobody seems to lose in that division.

Are there to discuss?

We'll talk about those, and then we preview the next week.

So it's been pretty solid so far.

And, you know, when does it usually post?

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