Michelle Appears on Call Her Daddy, Rachel’s Freedom, and Keith Edwards on Critiquing Crockett

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.7 • 11.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2026

⏱️ 126 minutes

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Van and Rachel react to the Oscar nominations before discussing Rachel’s newfound freedom and Michelle Obama’s appearance on Call Her Daddy. Then, there’s drama between LeBron and the Lakers, and media personality Keith Edwards joins to break down his coverage of the Texas Senate race. (0:00) Intro (2:18) Oscar nominations (14:14) Rachel’s IG post (20:41) Michelle Obama on Call Her Daddy (39:05) Lakers drama (49:34) Taylor Swift calls Justin Baldoni a “bitch” (59:35) Keith Edwards on Jasmine Crockett vs. James Talarico Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Keith Edwards Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, you're all, Warriors.
0:08.2	What is up?
0:08.7	How are you on is Ivan Lacey Jr.
0:10.4	And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.
0:12.6	Worlds collide today.
0:17.4	Tell them why.
0:18.8	Finally.
0:19.9	Keith Edwards on the podcast. Keith Edwards is on the podcast live in
0:24.5	person too I'm in I'm in LA yeah you're in New York doing your thing you and um you and Keith had a
0:31.9	how did you feel a conversation with you like me I thought it ended really well like i thought i think it's a necessary conversation
0:40.2	than more people should have and i appreciate him being bold enough to come do it and do it in
0:45.3	person especially after we called him out so many times and he wasn't afraid to come so i thought
0:50.7	i thought it went well i thought it was a good conversation.
0:59.4	Yeah, I didn't call him out for what he said because I don't have that much of a problem with it. But like I called him out for not having the conversation with us and, you know, doing the whole thing, which he did.
1:05.9	Which he did.
1:06.8	And I think I understand more now more, not just him, but kind of some of the roadblocks
1:19.1	coalitionally inside, if that's even a word, inside the left when it comes to talking about race and gender and stuff.
1:28.0	And it's a problem that we have more than the other side has because they're not as diverse.
1:34.7	So it's, I think that we are motivated by the same things. So it's an issue that we deal with that
1:41.2	they don't have to deal with or care to deal with, I should say.
1:45.0	My biggest thing with him that I wanted to bring up and bring out, which I feel like we got to,
1:50.9	was why. I'm not saying I agree, which we've said multiple times, the things that he is being
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