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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Ye’s Apology, Latest Death in Minneapolis, and Aldis Hodge and Ben Watkins on ‘Cross’

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.711.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 113 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel react to Kanye’s apology in The Wall Street Journal, before discussing the violence in Minnesota. Plus, actor Aldis Hodge and showrunner Ben Watkins join to get us set for Season 2 of Amazon Prime Video’s ‘Cross.’ (0:00) Intro (0:24) Kanye’s apology (29:16) Another shooting in Minneapolis (59:09) Texas Senate debate (1:02:51) Chris Broussard’s bad tweet (1:05:23) Aldis Hodge and Ben Watkins on Season 2 of ‘Cross’ Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Aldis Hodge and Ben Watkins Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors.

0:10.5

What is up?

0:11.9

How Learning is on, is I Van Lake and Jr.

0:13.8

And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.

0:17.9

What's going on?

0:19.3

Some's in my eyes.

0:20.1

Some is my. Got it, got it, let's go.

0:22.2

You're ready to go.

0:23.0

I'm ready to go.

0:24.8

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0:30.1

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0:37.1

Workday, moving business forever forward.

0:39.9

There's breaking news.

0:41.8

Yeah, I saw it.

0:43.8

I know where you're going.

0:45.4

I haven't read the whole thing.

0:46.8

Okay, so we're going to read it to everyone together.

0:49.6

Kanye West has taken out an ad, a full-page ad, in the Wall Street Journal to apologize to the Jewish and black communities.

1:00.7

Now, before this, he had done an apology with a rabbi in New York, and no one really knew.

1:08.9

Yeah, I didn't see that.

1:09.9

You can see he was talking to the rabbi. Some people thought he was a guy or whatever. But Kanye West has taken out a full page ad to apologize to the black and Jewish community. We're going to read the whole thing. It's going to be quick. 25 years ago, I was in a car accident that broke my jaw and caused injury to the right frontal lobe of my brain. At the time,

1:28.2

the focus was on the visible damage, the fracture, the swelling, and the immediate physical trauma.

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