Michael Zezas: Inside the Municipal Bond Liquidity Trap
Thoughts on the Market
Morgan Stanley
4.8 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 17 March 2020
⏱️ 3 minutes
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Summary
When markets get volatile, strange things start to happen in markets you might not expect. That's both a sign of stress, and in some cases, a sign of opportunity.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. |
| 0:04.4 | I'm Michael Zezas, head of Public Policy Research and Municipal Strategy for Morgan Stanley. |
| 0:08.7 | Along with my colleagues bringing you a variety of perspectives, I'll be talking about the |
| 0:12.2 | intersection between U.S. public policy and financial |
| 0:14.4 | markets. It's Tuesday, March 17th at 1130 a.m. Eastern. |
| 0:19.0 | When markets get this volatile, strange things start to happen in markets you might not expect. |
| 0:23.0 | That's both a sign of stress and in some cases a sign of opportunity. |
| 0:27.0 | Today's municipal bond market is a great example of this |
| 0:30.0 | and we want to break down where the opportunities are. |
| 0:32.0 | The meaning market has undergone a great deal of stress. and we want to break down where the opportunities are. |
| 0:32.5 | The meaning market has undergone a great deal of stress. |
| 0:35.0 | Its underperformance was worse, both in speed and size |
| 0:37.6 | than the financial crisis. |
| 0:39.2 | In two weeks, the market went from pricing rich |
| 0:41.4 | by most measures to historically cheap. |
| 0:44.2 | Why did that happen? |
| 0:45.3 | Are municipalities particularly exposed to the stresses of the coronavirus? |
| 0:49.2 | Some types of issuers are, like hospitals in particular, which we recently reduced our weighting to, and high-yield munis should |
| 0:54.9 | see strain because of a weaker economy. |
| 0:57.2 | But for most issuers, this move was about a muni liquidity trap. |
| 1:01.0 | Munis are a market where the ownership isn't particularly diverse. It's owned mostly by individual investors. |
| 1:05.6 | And when they wanted cash all at once, as virus fears hit the risk markets, the sell off was sharp and severe. |
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