Michael Zezas: Could “Phase One” Be the Turning Point?
Thoughts on the Market
Morgan Stanley
4.8 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 23 October 2019
⏱️ 2 minutes
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On this episode, Head of U.S. Public Policy Michael Zezas explains why a global growth rebound could largely hinge on trade negotiations ahead of the December 15th tariffs.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Michael Zezes, Head of Public Policy and Municipal Strategy for Morgan Stanley. |
| 0:08.0 | Along with my colleagues bringing you a variety of perspectives, I'll be talking about the intersection between US public policy and |
| 0:13.6 | financial markets. It's Wednesday October 23rd at 9 a.m. Eastern. Both the US and China |
| 0:18.8 | keep saying the right things about their trade talks. They say they're productive, that they're advancing. We have to admit |
| 0:24.2 | that for the moment things seem less tense. But is that enough to reverse the slowing in the |
| 0:28.1 | economy that's taken hold? That's the question our economists have been looking at in detail. |
| 0:32.2 | The short answer is, not yet. That's the question our economists have been looking at in detail. |
| 0:32.7 | The short answer is, not yet. |
| 0:34.8 | If you've been listening to this podcast, you probably recall that our economists have been concerned |
| 0:38.8 | that trade policy risks had touched off a cycle of declining corporate confidence, declining |
| 0:43.4 | capex, and a decline in demand for labor. The data has borne out in recent months |
| 0:47.8 | that this cycle is in motion, with cappex grinding to a halt in mid-2018 |
| 0:51.7 | when trade tension started, after undergoing a halt in mid-2018 when trade tensions started after undergoing a |
| 0:54.3 | renaissance in 2017 and 2018. So stopping this cycle takes time. In our |
| 0:58.8 | economist view, global economic recovery could start in the first quarter of next year if in the coming weeks |
| 1:04.0 | the negotiations reveal that the US and China have made substantive progress making this |
| 1:08.5 | pause a durable one and consumer strength continues into the fourth quarter. |
| 1:12.7 | If instead the current pause appears flimsy, |
| 1:15.3 | with little negotiating progress made ahead of a planned November meeting, |
| 1:19.0 | it could take longer. |
| 1:20.3 | And if December 15th tariffs go into place, likely the result of a breakdown of negotiations, |
| 1:25.4 | then it will be difficult for a growth rebound to come into sight, |
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