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Thoughts on the Market

Andrew Sheets: Can Sentiment Alone Drive Markets Higher?

Thoughts on the Market

Morgan Stanley

Strategy, Alternatives, Macro, Equities, Fixed Income, Investing, Global, Business, Markets, Economics

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2019

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

On today's episode, Optimism in markets has risen significantly over the past three weeks. But Chief-Across Asset Strategist Andrew Sheets asks, “Is optimism enough?”

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0:00.0

Welcome to the thoughts on the market. I'm Andrew Sheets, Chief Cross Asset

0:06.0

Strategy from Morgan Stanley. Along with my colleagues bring you a variety of

0:09.2

perspectives, I'll be talking about trends across the global investment landscape and how we put those different ideas together.

0:14.8

It's Friday, October 25th at 2 p.m. in London.

0:18.6

Like high school, investing involves an inordinate amount of interest in and time spent talking about what other people may be up to.

0:25.7

And unlike high school, it's for a good reason.

0:28.6

Sentiment is among the most powerful forces in the The absolute low in price occurs by definition when things look most bleak.

0:44.6

For this reason, what investors are thinking can be as or more important than conditions

0:49.8

in the underlying economy.

0:51.3

And here lies one of the most commonly cited reasons we hear to be more optimistic.

0:55.6

Yes, this argument goes, economic and earnings growth are slowing.

0:59.6

But investors are already concerned enough about these factors that the market is more

1:04.4

likely to go up than down. We have no problem being contrarian. Trying to ZIG

1:09.0

when others ZAG is a central tenant to long-term successful investing.

1:12.6

But we do have a problem with this line of argument, or specifically three.

1:16.6

First, while there is no single measure for market optimism,

1:20.0

several measures that we do follow suggest significantly more optimism over the last three weeks,

1:25.3

following a pause in the US-China trade dispute and developments in the UK around Brexit.

1:30.4

As it so happens, that higher optimism is returning just as global stocks once again

1:35.1

moved the high end of a range that's held for over 18 months.

1:39.2

Second, our work suggests that while trying to be contrarian works most of the time, it's a strategy vulnerable

1:44.4

to changes in the market's regime, especially when a bull market ends.

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