Michael Walzer on Liberalism and its Critics

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.6 • 907 Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Michael Walzer is an eminent political philosopher and the author of numerous books, including Just and Unjust Wars and Spheres of Justice. He is professor emeritus at the Institute of Advanced Study, has taught at Harvard University, and is editor emeritus of the magazine Dissent. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Michael Walzer discuss why, though he is a democratic socialist, he believes that there are certain acceptable forms of inequality; what forms of injustice true egalitarians should focus on fighting; and the threats to liberalism from the post-liberal right and the illiberal left. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:29.0	Co. UK. You're going to. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.
0:47.0	Hi my name is Sam Khan. I'm an associate editor of Persuasion. I wrote my
0:57.4	recent piece How Not to Council Russia in response to one of these hot-button
1:00.5	culture wars controversies, which is that Elizabeth Gilbert had
1:03.7	announced the publication of a novel and then cancelled the novel a week later because the
1:07.5	setting is Siberia and Siberia is in Russia. It's an absurd thing is sort of clear excess of cancel culture, and Gilbert has been roundly
1:14.9	condemned for not sticking to her guns.
1:17.4	But with this piece I wanted to go a little deeper and explore something that has been bothering
1:20.6	me.
1:21.6	I do think it is very important to culturally punish Russia for the
1:24.3	Ukraine war, but somehow that needs to be done without a corresponding idea that all Russians
1:28.9	are irredeemable or that Russian culture is inextricable from Putinism.
1:33.1	It's a thorny topic, but I think very important to figuring out a long-term approach to confronting
1:36.9	Russia.
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