Welcome to the Bullwork Podcast. I'm Trelly Sykes. It is May 31, 2023. We've made it through

the first five months of this year. How are you, Michael? I am great, my friend. It is now officially

summer. I can whip out the short, short swimming trunks and I just really to let my beer belly do

its thing. Man, it's great. We're of course joined by Michael Steele. That is Michael Steele,

but you knew this. Host of the Michael Steele podcast, political analyst, and now a host,

you're like a host on MSNBC. I'm sorry, I missed you Saturday night. You were sitting in.

Yeah, I got pulled into the dead deal. It was fascinating.

I got a text from your producer, but it was like in the afternoon and by the way, it was summer

on Memorial Day weekend in Wisconsin. I have to say, you know what, think about Wisconsin as I mean,

just imagine being locked in a freezer for nine months of the year and then one day they open

the door and it's warm and sunny out. This is Wisconsin. Every single person is outside for the entire

weekend. It's part of our culture. It race to start running. It's running into the sun.

All right, so I do not want to be the one to inject any optimism. I'm in your discussion today,

but you know, as I was you're reading through the prep notes and looking at social media,

it occurs to me that we're in this kind of weird world where most of the energy from

Maga World is focused on attacking one another. The attacks between the DeSantis camp and the Trump

camp, watching Donald Trump attack Kayleigh McEnany-Nany calling her a milk toast to work. They did

not surprisingly. He missed spell. They are turning one one another. I mean, it really is kind of,

I think it's Nicole Wallace's phrase, you know, watching the tarantulas go at each other in the bag.

Give me your sense of this. Watching these folks who had kept their heads down and not broken ranks,

and now they're just throwing shit at each other. I mean, down in Texas, you guys Ken Paxton,

who is so corrupt, the guy is so squalid that the House GOP can't even, you know, stand him.

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