If you're a venture capitalist, your biggest fear is not that

sandbagged and freed takes your money and you lose $30 million.

It's that FTX is the next trillion dollar company and you weren't there.

That's the calculation they're all making is that

this thing looks like a rocket ship. It actually

actually has gone in revenues from 20 to 100 to

950 to a billion. And the revenues are going to be a byproduct of

like how many people want to gamble in this casino.

I'm Mary Long and that's Michael Lewis, the author and financial journalist

behind bestsellers like Moneyball and The Big Short.

Earlier this week, Motley Fool CEO and co-founder Tom Gardner caught up with

Lewis at a special event for Motley Fool One numbers.

Tom talked to Lewis about his latest book, Going Infinite,

which follows the meteoric rise and fall of crypto's one-schooled boy,

Sam Bacon Free.

In a way, I may have one question for you and that's it or I may have 712 other

questions. So there's no real in between. So here's the first question.

Could you tell the story of FTX? Two versions.

Version number one is the version where

sandbankment freed is overwhelmed, doesn't have good operating capabilities in

the organization and is genuinely making an effort

to advance his ideals and to do something he believes in and his intentions are good.

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