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Pardon My Take

Michael Jordan's Trainer Tim Grover, Stories About MJ, Last Dance 7 & 8 Review, Mt Flushmore Of Teammates

Pardon My Take

Barstool Sports

Sports, Football

4.882.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2020

⏱️ 126 minutes

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Summary

Last Dance episode 7 and 8 were the best of the series as we finally get to see the real MJ. Calling people ho, making up slights to get himself motivated, retirement and coming back all discussed. (2:14-21:17) Who's back of the week including Norman Chad's terrible column and UFC periscopes. (23:45-35:14) Michael Jordan's long time trainer Tim Grover joins the show to talk about the Last Dance, training MJ, what it was like making the transition to and from baseball, the flu game, and much more. (38:14-1:22:56) Mt Flushmore of teammates (1:24:45-1:41:58) and Billy Football's deep dive into Murder Hornets (1:44:14- 2:04:18)


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0:00.0

Hey, part of my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube.

0:06.4

Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon music. On today's part in my take, we have Michael Jordan's longtime trainer Tim Grover, great conversation with him about MJ's training, his competitive drive, what actually happened at the flu game the food poisoning game as he explains

0:28.2

uh... great interview his competitive, you know, drive, what actually happened at the flu game, the food poisoning game as he explains. Great interview. We also have last dance episodes, seven and eight recap. We have who's back in the week, the Mount Flushmore of teammates, and Billy football with his deep dive because it is Monday. Before we get to all of that part, my take is brought to you by the cash app. Not only is it the easiest place to send money to your friends, it's the safest. Use the cash app right now. Cash app has also been gifting us free subscriptions in our Twitch chat so you can go right there. They're just giving it away. They're giving them money away to charity for the cat cave derby. The cash app is the number one app in the world. All they do is support us and support charity and support you by giving you $10 for free with the code bar stool. They are the number one social distancing app, like I said, because if you use the cash app, you don't have to see anyone face to face. You can just use it quickly with your phone. Boom, send it easy peasy. The best app in the world voted by me. Ten times running, that's 10 days running, 10 times running, cash app, cash app, cash app, cash app, go download it right now, use code bar so you get $10 for free, $10 to ASPCA, download the cash app from the app store, Google Play Store today and get involved with the cash out. Okay, we gonna rock it down to E-L-S-R-K-E-L-U. My take. Presenting my bar. Yeah. Welcome to part of my take, presented by the cash app. Go download it right now. Use code bar stool. You get $10 for free. $10 to ASPCA. Today is Monday, May 11th and PFT. I think those were the two best episodes of the last dance. I'm going to start with a quote actually. the last montage in episode seven, when MJ was talking about his competitive drive, and he said, people will see this and say, he wasn't a nice guy and he may have been a tyrant. Well, that's you because you never won anything. That had me ready to run through a brick wall. Those were two awesome episodes. The thing is, he was right. Like, MJ sees the world on a different level from everybody else and yes, that probably makes him an asshole to the rest of us. But on the other hand, it also is exactly what made him great. And he was crying because, I think it was crying because he was so pissed off that people didn't as expect as much from themselves as he did from everybody else. Or maybe it was crying because he was thinking, oh shit MJ, you're about to cry. That sucks. You better, oh my, and I'm gonna cry because I'm thinking about myself crying. I think he might have been crying because he probably at times has felt misunderstood. You know, he talked about the first, they had that whole segment in episode seven. I thought episode seven was the strongest episode of the entire documentary was so so well done. But him retiring the media narrative that started that was like, oh, well, it must have something to do with his dad getting shot must have something to do with his gambling, which that is one of those times where I'm happy this didn't happen in 2020 because though like the conspiracy theorist would be out of control

4:06.7

It would be so it'd be so much worse than it was yeah, but already with the media running with it on the other hand I agree with you I think that there would be so much stuff out there about his dad getting shot and how it was mj's fault But it would come from people who weren't established in the media It's wild to think that in the mid-90s media, all these people who were given columns were

4:27.1

no better than just like some Twitter egg that who weren't established in the media. It's wild to think that in the mid-90s media,

4:25.1

all these people who were given columns

4:27.0

were no better than just like some Twitter egg

4:29.7

that weren't to like put this shit out there,

4:32.0

and they got away with it,

4:33.0

and they still have jobs to this day.

4:34.4

It's crazy, like I know when Sean Taylor

4:36.8

was shot, there was some stuff that came out too,

4:38.5

like with Coward and Michael Wilbon,

4:40.7

it's wild at the end of the day, we're all Twitter eggs, just some of us have a much bigger platform. And the fact that they went straight up with this narrative is just insane to me. Yeah, it was insane and it's put that episode and how much it affected him and coming back in the I'm back press conference. It was all so good. And I think this also the reason why these two episodes were so great was it really was MJ to his core with the shit talking calling Scott burrow a hoe which Very very funny. I wonder though When they did that Where do you think they sat down do you think he has been sat down and was like we like should be HOE or HO Like like actually have a discussion over it Whoever. Whoever was doing the subtitles. That was Jordan. That was Jordan getting final cut. Like that was really the only reason that he wanted to make sure that he had the last view on this was so that he can make sure that his subtitles of talking shit to Scottie Borelle were 100% accurate. I actually think that the the meanest thing that he said to Scottie was go home and feed your cat go home and feed your cat

5:46.6

is like get your fucking shine box that's like well you get what he said he's a nice guy yeah yeah well that was the best he was so mad about it because he was like yeah I basically tried to get Scott Perrell to fight me for forever and he just wouldn't do it he's too nice of a guy yeah Scott Perrell also weirdly in the like we'll get to the Steve

6:05.6

Kern and how MJ respects Steve Kerr because he went at him. But Scott Borrell was the was the only guy who in MJ's career could have been like, dude, I was a better baseball player than you. He was drafted in the first round in Major League Baseball. Well, he probably want to say that because Jordan would have murdered him if he had said that to him. that would have been a bridge to far from and the kind of whole narrative in this

6:25.8

whole thing is you know mj was an asshole but he was competitive as part of his

6:29.4

personality him if he had if he had said that to him that would have been a bridge too far for him and the kind of Hold narrative in this whole thing is you know MJ was an asshole, but he was competitive It was part of his personality and being an asshole It can make you Exceptional. I actually I want to rephrase that if you are exceptionally talented at what you do and you're an asshole Then people view it through a different prism of oh, yeah, okay you're you're bringing out the best in everybody and if but if you're an do and you're an asshole, then people view it through a different prism of, oh yeah, okay, you're bringing out the best and everybody. And if, but if you're an asshole and you're anything less than great, then you're just Lance Stevenson. You know, you're just like a guy that nobody really will ever truly care about that much. But with MJ, like the combination of his talent and his personality, like, you don't say that him being a jerk made him great but you're saying that his greatness like yeah he probably

7:09.6

would of his talent and his personality like you don't say that him being a jerk made him great but you're saying that his greatness like yeah he probably would not have been looked at in the way that we look at him right now if he didn't have that personality well there. Yeah it's chicken in the egg because it's you can't have that personality if you're not that much better than everyone else you know what I mean mean? You can't push. I thought that the part where he said,

7:26.4

I'd never asked anyone to do something I didn't do myself. That is what a true leader is. You know what I mean? Whether you agree with his tactics, whether you agree with the bowling and pushing people to the limit, that's a different discussion. I happen to agree with it because it's professional sports. It's not like corporate America.

7:44.5

There's a lot different, you know,

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when you're pushing yourselves as hard as you can,

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