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Suggestions for interesting guests today is a very interesting guest it is Easter, he is a professor at UNLV, am I getting that right and an

investigative health journalist? Are you, I would I had trouble figuring out well is he,

are you a professor of journalism or science or what is your

professorship in? Well I actually I just barely left that role last semester

but I was a professor in the journalism department.

Yeah, so to media studies.

And you've got some science training to be able to do some of this?

I went to a graduate program that was focused on health and science journalism.

So yeah, background is covering science basically.

It's what I've done most of my career.

I didn't expect necessarily to talk about this,

but the last four years must have been a very interesting ride

for you watching the craziness.

I was complaining to a friend of mine this morning

that there is so much nonsense now in the public discourse. I cannot

tell what is real, what I can trust, what is an appropriate conclusion.

Are you as confused as I am?

Yeah, I think that if a person is not confused

and they're certain on something,

that's a good indication they're totally wrong.

Yeah, you know it's funny it's funny the guy named Joseph Freiman who did some

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