Thank you. Hey everybody welcome to Dr. True Podcast. We should all being here and do support people that support us.

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interesting guests and do try to support the people that support the plod we try to

select them carefully David Ragsdale is my guest today. He is Operation Director for

Defe the Mandate and he has a lot of interesting ideas. Well, first of all,

he's an interesting life.

Then we can talk a bit about that, David.

He and I talked on the radio once about that.

I was getting deep into homelessness back then,

and David emerged from homelessness and addiction.

But we appreciate to being here.

Good to see you again.

Thank you.

It's good to see you again.

Do me favor, just sketch the homelessness journey

really quickly, just see if we can put that aside

and maybe get back to it at some point, but just so people know what I met by that.

Sure so native fourth generation native Angelino grew up in a great family, great schools, lived in Asia and Europe for 10 years, grad school, came back to LA, became an addict, and found myself, I woke up one day homeless in Atlanta of all places and when I did finally realize that I was in fact

homeless and I had been homeless for a while but didn't really notice. What was the drug that was making you not notice?

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