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Intelligent Design the Future

Michael Denton on the Primal Patterns That Govern Living Systems

Intelligent Design the Future

Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture

Science, Philosophy, Astronomy, Society & Culture, Life Sciences

4993 Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

On this classic ID The Future out of the vault, biochemist Dr. Michael Denton discusses the implications of recurring animal body plans, arguing that they are predetermined types that point away from purely mechanistic processes. He observes that structures like the insect body plan were fixed long ago and haven't changed. He argues they are better understood as instances of predetermined type rather than collections of historical adaptations. This predetermination, he suggests, is the product of laws of form, which he finds inexplicable on a mechanistic view of nature. Source

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0:00.0

Welcome to Idy the Future, a podcast about intelligent design and evolution.

0:16.6

Welcome to Idy the Future, a podcast of the Discovery Institute Center for Science and Culture.

0:22.4

I'm Joshua Yonkin. Today we're pleased to present an interview with CSC Senior Fellow, Dr. Michael Denton.

0:29.6

Dr. Denton has been a medical geneticist for over 20 years, a researcher on the mammalian eye,

0:35.7

and is the author of two books, Evolution of Theory and Crisis,

0:39.3

and, more recently, Nature's Destiny.

0:42.3

He holds an MD from Bristol University and a PhD in Biochemistry from King's College, London.

0:48.3

On today's podcast, Dr. Denton observes that the insect body plan were fixed long ago, have not changed, and are for several

0:56.0

reasons better understood as instances of predetermined type rather than as a collection of historically

1:01.5

contingent adaptations. This predetermination of type denton reasons is the product of laws of form,

1:08.2

inexplicable and even invisible on a mechanistic view of nature.

1:12.2

My anti-Darwinism has always had different components. It's pluralistic. I'm not just

1:19.0

skeptical about Darwinism because living things are very complicated and how on earth could they

1:23.2

have come about by random processes. That's a sort of a gut intuition I have, and I think that

1:29.2

intuition has actually shared really very widely by many biologists who won't admit it.

1:37.5

But I'm pretty sure of it. But there's also other aspects of the biological world, the realm of

1:43.1

the natural world, which

1:45.6

are difficult to account for in terms of Darwinism, apart from the very great complexity

1:50.2

of living things.

1:51.3

This is the sort of focus of Doug Axe of Steve Meyer and Dembski.

1:56.5

That's the sort of how come all the complexity of living things could come about by Darwinism.

2:01.6

That's one very powerful argument, right?

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