ID The Future, a podcast about evolution and intelligent design.

Can evolutionary processes take credit for human creativity?

Welcome to ID the Future. I'm your host, Andrew McDermott.

Today, I'd like to share with you a conversation

that first aired on Mind Matters News, another podcast from the Discovery Institute that focuses

on the intersection of artificial and natural intelligence. In this episode, guest hosts Pat Flynn

welcomes Dr. Eric Holloway and Professor Robert J. Marks

to discuss the information cost

of creativity.

The conversation is based on a chapter

in the recent volume Minding the Brain

authored by Dr. Holloway and Marks.

Essentially, they are addressing

the following question.

Can the marvels of human creativity, like novels, speeches and ideas, really be explained by random processes and brain chemistry alone?

As Holloway and Marx explain, even allowing for the computational capacity of the entire universe and a hypothetical multiverse,

the probability of randomly generating a short,

meaningful phrase is astronomically low. This suggests that human creativity cannot be fully explained

by natural random processes and may require a non-material or external source of information and

guidance. Let's listen in as Flynn

and his guests climb the metaphorical mountain of information to address the origins of human

creativity. Hello everybody and welcome back to the Mind Matters podcast. I am the guest host today. My name is Pat Flynn,

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