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Intelligent Design the Future

A Neurosurgeon Pulls Back the Curtain on the Soul

Intelligent Design the Future

Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture

Science, Philosophy, Astronomy, Society & Culture, Life Sciences

4993 Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

On this ID The Future, host Andrew McDiarmid is thrilled to welcome back renowned neurosurgeon Dr. Michael Egnor to continue discussing his new book The Immortal Mind: A Neurosurgeon's Case for the Existence of the Soul. The book tackles provocative ideas, making a case that the human soul exists and that the mind is immortal. In this compelling conversation, we unpack some of the powerful arguments and evidence Dr. Egnor has marshaled. This is Part 2 of a two-part conversation. Source

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0:00.0

ID the Future, a podcast about evolution and intelligent design.

0:12.3

Welcome to ID the Future. I'm your host, Andrew McDermott. Well, today I'm excited to welcome back

0:17.8

renowned neurosurgeon Dr. Michael Agnor to continue talking with me about his new book, The Immortal Mind, renowned neurosurgeon Dr. Michael Egnor to continue talking with me about

0:22.1

his new book, The Immortal Mind, a neurosurgeon's case for the existence of the soul.

0:28.0

Dr. Egnor is a professor of neurosurgery and pediatrics at State University of New York, Stony Brook.

0:34.5

Named one of New York's best doctors by New York Magazine in 2005, Eggnore is an

0:40.0

award-winning brain surgeon who has performed over 7,000 brain operations. Dr. Agnor, welcome

0:46.3

back. Thank you, Andrew. It's a pleasure to be back. And by the way, you know, 7,000 brain

0:51.9

operations. Are you adding to that tally daily, weekly?

0:55.8

How many are you doing these days?

0:57.8

Two or three a week.

1:00.1

Wow. And yeah, yeah. I'm getting a little old for this, but yeah, I do two or three a week.

1:05.3

Yeah. And you can trace that all the way back to your training in Miami, which you say it was a very busy and opportune place

1:11.7

to learn your trade. And you detail some of that in the book. Yeah, yeah, it was a busy time.

1:17.7

I spent six years at Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, and it's a very, very busy place.

1:24.6

Well, so you've written this book making a case that the human soul exists

1:29.2

and that the mind is immortal. And over a couple of episodes of the podcast, we're unpacking

1:34.8

some of the arguments and evidence that you've marshaled for these provocative ideas. In a previous

1:40.0

episode, we covered some basics as we teased out some of the key insights of your book.

1:49.9

You covered the definitions of mind, brain, and soul. You broke down for us the difference between the materialist view and the view that you hold, the dualist view it's called.

1:54.9

We discussed the example of split brain surgery and what that reveals about the unity

1:59.1

of the mind. We talked about what we can learn about

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