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Michael and Us: Both Sides Now w/ Alex Shephard

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Socialism, History, News, Left, Jacobin, Alternative, Socialist, Politics

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2021

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

America is divided, capitalism is to blame, and the only solution is... more capitalism. That's the thesis of STARS AND STRIFE (2020), another centrist documentary from the last election in which the architects of oligarchy and globalization, and big money in politics call for... an end to those things. Niall Ferguson, Rahm Emanuel, Amy Chua, Alan Greenspan, and Francis Fukuyama are just a few of the titans who deliver wildly contradictory prescriptions to America's ills in this truly dreadful documentary. We're joined by New Republic staff writer Alex Shephard to discuss. PLUS: the ongoing grift of David Brooks.

"David Brooks and the Endless Grift of the Conservative Commentariat" by Alex Shephard - https://newrepublic.com/article/161621/david-brooks-endless-grift-conservative-commentariat

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0:00.0

Brody, Brody, Brody's everything from fashion's books to tag a game

0:03.2

Murder, Brody, Brody's scared

0:04.8

Detectives everywhere, Bezos making crazy songs

0:07.6

Sports and empty stadiums

0:09.0

I'm sad as we said R.I.P. to co-ed

0:11.3

The Chadwick R.B.G

0:14.4

Yeah, this happens every time

0:16.5

We both have that same thought every time we do a movie like this

0:20.8

Which is why we've had to radically expand the palette of the podcast

0:25.8

To also include art films and stuff

0:28.4

Because like otherwise we would just go crazy and we would not be able to keep doing this

0:32.1

Like there's only so much liberal and conservative and like centrist catch that you can take at one time

0:37.6

But like I always have there's always the same series of thoughts I have watching

0:42.2

A movie like this one is who is it for?

0:44.7

Two is how much can there possibly be left in this movie?

0:48.5

Usually I think it's about 20 minutes and usually I find them actually only about 20 minutes into it

0:53.2

And then and then

0:54.7

Relatedly and thirdly like you know you get 20 minutes into a movie like this and you think how much more can it possibly have to say

1:01.6

Like everything has already been said where do we go?

1:04.0

How do we fill another hour with this and somehow these movies always seem to have the answer?

1:08.5

Well, especially lately I have we watch like five of these documentaries with the exact same thesis

1:14.6

All of which came out in 2020

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