Hi, I'm Zivie Owens, and you're listening to the award-winning podcast.

Moms don't have time to read books. Thanks so much for listening to my podcast. If you like what you hear,

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I had such a nice talk with author Mia Birdsong via Skype.

She is the author of How We Show Up,

reclaiming family, friendship, and community. She's also going to be part of my book club on June 23rd. If this is aired by then, I'm not sure. Anyway, Mia will be my guest then, so sign up at Zibby's

virtual book club. Mia is a pathfinder, community curator, and a storyteller who steadily engages the leadership

and wisdom of people experiencing injustice to chart new visions of American life.

In her work on guaranteed income as Senior Fellow of the Economic Security Project, she

tapped into the voices and visions of low-income people to

reimagine the American social contract, which she talked about in her TED talk. Mia was an inaugural

ascend fellow and faculty member with the Aspen Institute, a New America, California

fellow, an advocate in residence with the University of Pennsylvania School of Social Policy

and practiced. She's been published widely and speaks at conferences and universities across the country,

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