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Beyond Today

MH17: how was the truth uncovered?

Beyond Today

BBC

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4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2019

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Five years ago passenger flight MH17 was en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it was shot down over conflict-hit Ukraine. Investigators blame Russian-backed separatists who they say targeted the plane with a Russian-made missile. One of the reasons they’re sure is because of the work of Eliot Higgins. He founded the website Bellingcat, which describes itself as "the home of online investigations". Eliot tells us how he traced the missile system from Eastern Ukraine back to Kursk in Western Russia. And how he used voice recognition software to match Russian officials to intercepted calls made by the Ukrainian secret service. To hear the whole story of the MH17 investigation head to the Bellingcat website and listen to their new podcast: https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/podcasts/2019/07/17/mh17-episode-guide-1/. Produced by Duncan Barber Mixed by Nicolas Raufast Editor : Philly Beaumont

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:06.3

Hello, I'm Matthew Price.

0:07.8

This is Beyond Today from BBC Radio 4,

0:10.8

where we ask one big question about one big story every weekday.

0:15.0

Today, MH17, how was the truth uncovered?

0:27.0

It was a beautiful day, July 17, 2014, and I know this because I was living in Brussels with my family at the time where I was working.

0:41.0

Came out of the house, we were off to a barbecue, I was putting the kids in the car and the phone rang.

0:46.9

My boss said, stop what you're doing, you need to go straight to Skippole Airport in Amsterdam.

0:54.0

Let's go to our Europe correspondent Matthew Price who is at

0:58.0

Schippole Airport this morning and Matthew as I was saying...

1:01.0

Well the airport is functioning as normal this morning flights flying in and out.

1:06.0

But you know, last night there was a very somber atmosphere here as some of the relatives

1:12.1

of those on board this plane arrived at the airport.

1:16.0

And over the coming days, the flowers, the notes, the teddy bears started to grow outside the airport itself and we started to learn more

1:28.0

about the people who have been on the plane.

1:30.0

154 Dutch passengers were on board the aircraft, 27 Australian passengers, 23 Malaysian, 11 Indonesian,

1:41.0

and the over-riding sense beyond the grief at that moment among the people you talk to

1:50.0

was just an utter lack of comprehension.

1:53.0

Was the plane shot down and if so by whom?

1:56.0

Ukraine's president says it was an act of terrorism.

1:59.0

Pro-Russian rebels have blamed the Ukrainians.

2:02.0

About how on earth this could have happened.

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