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Mewgenics Is Out, And It Only Took 14 Years (with Edmund McMillen)

Triple Click

Maximum Fun

Arts, Maddy Myers, Society & Culture, Jason Schreier, Kirk Hamilton, Technology, Video Games

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Jason, Kirk, and Maddy bring on veteran game designer Edmund McMillen (Binding of Isaac, Super Meat Boy) to talk about his latest game, Mewgenics, which was first announced in 2012 (!) and is out this week. They talk about the long development cycle, why McMillen parted ways with his Team Meat partner Tommy Refenes, breeding cats, and much much more.

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0:00.0

You ever think about how dogs and cats are both predators?

0:07.0

It's weird to think of my dog as a predator, since the main things she hunts are treats and scritches.

0:12.0

Welcome to Triple Click, where we bring the games to you.

0:15.0

This week we're talking with Edmund McMillan about the wacky, battle-tested cats of his new game eugenics, a long-end

0:21.7

development feline tactical road like that finally comes out this week. Let's get into it.

0:30.9

I'm Kirk Hamilton. I'm Maddie Myers. And I'm Jason Dreyer. Hello. Hello. It's us again.

0:37.0

It's good to be back. Yeah, it is good to be back. It's always. Hello. Hello. It's us again. Good to be back.

0:38.3

Yeah, it is good to be back. It's always good to be back. It's good to be back on Triple Click making our favorite gaming podcast. My favorite gaming podcast to listen to, actually. I listen every week. And I like to listen to Triple Click. It's pretty good. It's fun to listen to. It is. It's fun to listen to, even when you have to listen to your own voice. It's good to enjoy the things that you make as this

0:59.3

episode will dive into. That is true. That is going to come up. That is going to be a running

1:04.4

theme of this episode. And we are, we feel really grateful to get to make this podcast that we

1:09.6

enjoy making. And the reason for that

1:11.9

is that you all support our show if you would like to support triple click you can become a maximum

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1:23.6

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1:35.9

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1:42.1

I think that's actually true. In many ways, each of our listeners is meandies. Right. So if you'd like to join the club of Maximum Fund members, the club of triple-click supporters, it's very easy to do so. Go to maximumfund.org slash join, sign up to become a member. And of course, if you become a member, you get access to a ton of bonus episodes that we have recorded. One every month.

2:04.4

Since we started making this show in 2020, almost six years ago, totally wild. So that is a hell of a lot of bonus episodes as you can listen to.

2:13.4

We talk about movies, TV shows, games. We do spoiler casts. That's typically where we put those. Also, just all kinds of other random stuff. It's a really fun grab bag of triple-click material. Maximumfund.org slash join, become a member. Support our show. All right, this is a very exciting episode. We have a very exciting guest. Jason, how about you tell our listeners who we're

2:35.1

going to have on the show? Yeah, today we're going to be talking to Edmund McMillan, who is a

2:39.9

longtime indie game designer. He was profiled in Indie Game The Movie, which is a movie we talked

2:46.5

about as a bonus episode just a few months ago. Yeah, speaking of bonus episodes.

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