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🗓️ 9 May 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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At Stripe’s Sessions conference this week, Mark Zuckerberg pitched what he calls the “ultimate business machine”: a fully automated, end-to-end AI ad engine promising to replace agencies, creatives, and media buyers. You just need to connect your bank account first.  Zuckerberg claims this could be one of the most valuable AI systems ever built, generating thousands of image ads and testing them in real time, but it raises a bigger question: is this the future of advertising, or just another wave of AI slop flooding your feed? Today, on TechCrunch’s Equity podcast, hosts Kirsten Korosec, Max Zeff and Anthony Ha are unpacking why Zuckerberg’s vision could be a marketer’s dream or creative agency’s worst nightmare, and what else caught our eye in tech this week. Listen to the full episode to hear about: How Google’s Gemini 2.5 Pro managed to beat Pokémon Blue. Max was unimpressed, but the Equity crew thinks gamifying AI benchmarks might be the way to go. The countertop robot that handles some parts of cooking for you, with emphasis on some Uber’s continued push into autonomous vehicles and what Waymo’s doing in the mix A new venture from Brian Armstrong that just raised $130 million to develop cutting-edge age-reversing treatments, and who else is using AI to help us live forever Equity will be back next week, so stay tuned! Equity is TechCrunch’s flagship podcast, produced by Theresa Loconsolo, and posts every Wednesday and Friday.  Subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Overcast, Spotify and all the casts. You also can follow Equity on X and Threads, at @EquityPod. For the full episode transcript, for those who prefer reading over listening, check out our full archive of episodes here. Credits: Equity is produced by Theresa Loconsolo with editing by Kell. We’d also like to thank TechCrunch’s audience development team. Thank you so much for listening, and we'll talk to you next time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.0

So have either of you played Pokemon Blue?

0:18.0

I played a lot like 10 to 15 years ago, much less recently.

0:23.6

Wow, that's kind of wild to me because you're also the baby of the podcast.

0:26.6

But the reason we're talking about it is not for nostalgia, but because over the weekend,

0:31.6

Google's Gemini 2.5 Pro beat Pokemon Blue, although there's a lot of asterisks because, like, they had to

0:39.3

build these, like, agent harnesses that translated the game to something that Gemini could play.

0:45.7

And it wasn't something that Google did officially.

0:48.1

I think somebody, like, did it as a little fun side project on Twitch.

0:51.4

But, like, Sundar Pichai was definitely cheering it on.

0:53.8

So I'm curious, like, I guess Max is somebody who's interested in both AI and Pokemon.

0:57.7

Were you impressed?

0:58.7

I'm just saying I beat this game when I was 10, so I'm not really, I'm not that impressed.

1:04.4

Wait, didn't you just say you played it a few years ago and now you've now referenced

1:08.7

that you were 10 when you did that?

1:10.5

No, no, no, I said like 10 to 15 years ago and now you've now referenced that you were 10 when you did that. No, no, no, I said like 10 to 15 years ago.

1:12.9

Okay, okay, okay.

1:14.0

I know I'm young, but I was not 10 years old a few years ago.

1:18.6

So let's just-cunch prodigy.

1:20.0

We have a 12-year-old here, guys.

1:21.9

No, we don't.

1:22.7

We don't.

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