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The Trial

Meta and Google DID cause harm

The Trial

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4.21.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

In this emergency episode Caroline and Liz have the landmark verdict in Los Angeles that social media companies knew their platforms were addictive. The jury found that Meta and Google harmed a young user with design features that were addictive and led to her mental health distress. The judgement is being called big tech’s “tobacco moment” because it’s likely to open the doors for more claims.


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Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull

Guests: Matthew Bergman and Carolina Rossini

Producer: Chelsey Ranore

Editor: Chelsey Ranore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

 

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to a special episode of the trial UK. I'm Caroline Cheatham.

0:12.4

And I'm Liz Hull. So today we are revisiting a little mini series that we brought you a few weeks ago.

0:20.1

And that was our series called The Trial of

0:22.5

Social Media. And that's because, Liz, in the last few hours, what happened in L.A. is the jury that

0:30.5

were deciding on that case in L.A. around whether social media firms like Meta and like YouTube knew that what they were making

0:41.4

and what they were enticing young people to be involved in and to be connected to

0:48.7

was harmful because it was addictive.

0:52.3

It was a really interesting argument that we're going to come to shortly

0:54.9

in terms of what the lawyers were arguing and how they got round a very old piece of legislation,

1:02.7

which has always put a halt on these kinds of cases. But the lawyers argued something very,

1:09.0

very different. Effectively, it was called Big Tech's

1:12.5

tobacco moment. And in the last few hours, the jury have come back and said, yeah, they're liable.

1:20.3

They knew what they were designing was addictive. And Kaylee, KGM, as she's been known in this case, has won her case.

1:31.1

Yeah, so it's just a reminder, I suppose.

1:33.4

We talked about this, the week that Mark Zuckerberg matters, Chief Executive, gave evidence, didn't we, Caroline?

1:40.8

That was why we brought that episode to you because it's such a, well,

1:44.6

what the Americans call a bellwether case. We'd call it a test case probably because Kaylee was

1:50.0

the first of a series of teenagers, young people, schools, whole communities that have lodged

1:58.1

claims against Meta and YouTube saying that they knew that their social media

2:03.7

sites were addictive and tech built into social media. So the algorithm, the infinite scrolling,

2:11.4

the likes, all were basically designed to keep kids on social media for as long as possible.

2:19.0

And that's what causes the harm.

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