Hello and welcome to what I call my podcast under the skin from luminary this week I spoke

with Merlin Sheldrake. Merlin is a biologist author of entangled life and if you're listening

Merlin, hello mate. How funky makes our world, changes our minds, shapes our futures, he's

the son of renowned scientists, he won't run this, he don't tell people who people's dads

are, do you? Yeah, but he loves his dad. Oh, he loves his dad.

He loves his dad. We talk about him in the podcast. His name is Rupert Sheldrake, he's

also been a guest. Yeah, he's relevant to the podcast. We could get every generation.

We could get this brother on. I never met a Sheldrake that I didn't like, get them all on under

the skin, have them on the mic. Merlin's just the beginning of my hip hop career, but I'm keen to

explore new territory. Yeah, well I love him and I love his book entangled life and I love reading

about him in Robert McFarlane's book Underland who devotes a chapter to his escapades with Merlin

Sheldrake. I've got a lot of one of them things I'm supposed to be saying. I'm supposed to be saying

something. Oh yeah, aren't we men to read out Charlie said we should read out comments. I've

not included it. You thought I wasn't included. You don't trust me. I don't trust you, Jen,

because of that time you put my email address in a podcast and I got emails. It was a terrible

time of the year. A lot of changes happened. I got emails, very menacing emails all week long.

It's terrible, terrible unprofessionalism from Jenny.

It's my email. You left your email in there. You just said my email.

Is that your email? Of course. What? Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not a famous person. I don't have a letter with my name. If any of you fancy Jenny

may fin, particularly those of you of Chisley Chins. You can email her. I actually

gonna beep it. Put in the subject. I'll put your email. Chisley Chins. Don't you dare. I don't

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