From Global, leading Britain's conversation with James O'Brien.

Good morning. It's three minutes after ten, and you are listening to James O'Brien on LBC, possibly the wisest decision you will make all day.

And I sort of leave it a little bit dangling this morning,

what we may discuss later in the program.

I'm drawn to the tale of mobile phones in schools,

largely because it's one of those areas where sometimes you have to check yourself,

don't you?

You sort of have to remember that classrooms,

and I suspect that this gets both truer, no, hang on,

it gets both more important to do and harder to do the older you get. How many things does that

fit, that description? The older you get, the more important it is, but also the harder it is

to remember that the world has changed a lot since you were in the

category that you're conversing about. It is a very long time since I was at school. Not quite as long

ago as it was for some people listening to this programme, but a lot longer than it was for other

people listening to this programme. Smart phones didn't exist. The

internet didn't exist. The world was a very different place. So I think we all need to resist

the urge when asked what we think about mobile phones in classrooms to sort of metaphorically

close our eyes and imagine our own short trousered selves using mobile phones in classrooms. And we may get a slightly

different answer. Gavin Williamson does not strike me as the sharpest knife in the political

draw. We may a little later in the programme have a look at what the former Foreign Office Minister,

Sir Alan Duncan, has had to say about some of his former colleagues in the party. I think that would

be a welcome injection of balance into the programme rather than me describing Gavin Williamson

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