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Here we go.

My name's Todd.

This is Kathy.

Welcome back to another episode of Zen Parenting Radio.

This is podcast number 574.

Why listen to Zen Parenting Radio?

Because you'll feel outstanding.

And who doesn't want to feel outstanding?

And always remember our motto, which is that the best predictor

of a child's well-being is a parent's self-understanding. On today's show, we have two guests,

and we were just before we pressed record, I want to know, because Kathy's going to kind of be

interviewing myself and these two guests. So, sweetie, how do you want to start this out?

Well, I was just thinking before we started that I think I met both these guys before you did.

So I win.

First of all, why is everything in competition with you?

Right, guys?

I did.

I met...

I don't know about Sean, but I know for sure, me.

For sure, Frank.

Frank and I did yoga teacher training together years ago, like 10 years ago, Frank, like 12 years ago.

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