Men in Elders Quorum
Leading Saints Podcast
Leading Saints
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🗓️ 5 November 2023
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
In this solo episode, Kurt talks about how to transform the culture in elders quorum and the entire ward by focusing on the heart of the men.
Links
Research about men and suicide
Is Elders Quorum Working?
Warrior Heart Retreats
Cwic Show: The Problem with Men and Masculinity in the Church – feat. Kurt Francom
Thoughtful Faith: Are We as a Church Failing Men? (With Kurt Francom)
When the Bishop is Too Nice | An Interview with Dr. Robert Glover
How I Lead with Priesthood Blessings | An Interview With Mike Novakovich
One Couple’s Journey Through Sexual Addiction | An Interview with Chris & Autumn Bennett
Former Bishop, Recovering Addict | An Interview with Evan Hathaway
Wild at Heart
Waking the Dead: The Secret to a Heart Fully Alive
No More Mr. Nice Guy
The Alter Ego Effect
The Heart of Man (streaming)
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Highlights
2:40 Introduction to the episode’s topic: men at church
7:15 If we could crack the code with men to help them and strengthen them so that they can strengthen their own families. Turning to porn and other things for coping.
9:30 The media and social platforms attack masculinity and call it toxic. What does healthy masculinity look like? Does society know what to do with men? Does the Church know what to do with men?
11:50 When we unknowingly send the wrong message at church. Men hiding behind the perfect ironed suit and the huge smile. Unfortunately someone in the elders quorum is the most at risk of suicide.
14:00 How can we help men find brotherhood and connection at church? Kurt makes suggestions on things we can do. We need to offer more for men after they age out of Young Single Adult and mission programs.
17:20 If you want to fix the youth then walk down the hall and fix the elders quorum. Think of the impact that the elders quorum can have on the youth and their own children.
19:00 The nice guy vs. masculine man. Kurt dives into toxic masculinity and passive masculinity.
24:00 What does healthy masculinity look like?
27:45 What does the Church attempt to offer men? These are things that are offered on paper and with good intentions but sometimes seem more like assignments.
- Saving ordinances
- Spiritual development
- Community and brotherhood
- Service opportunities
- Leadership opportunities
32:15 What do men need from the church? What do they need from their quorum? While it’s important to remind them of their duty and responsibility you have to start with a foundation. You have to start with heart.
34:00 There is no laziness in elders quorum, just a lack of fulfillment. How to help men turn back to their heart instead of duty.
39:50 According to author John Eldridge, every man has 3 core desires:
- A battle to fight
- An adventure to live
- A beauty to love
43:40 How to stimulate brotherhood
- We need to provide mentorship
- Pray together and for each other
- Invite people to share their story or share your own
- Offer men adventure. Organize activities for men to get out
50:00 Kurt shares resources: books, events, podcast talks
54:00 How has ministering to men made you a better follower of Jesus Christ?
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| 0:00.0 | It seems like struggles with pornography get most the air time these days since it is so available in modern times. |
| 0:08.8 | However, drug abuse and substance addiction is growing at shocking rates. |
| 0:14.0 | As a church leader, we need to be prepared. |
| 0:16.5 | We have a library full of resources focused on this topic. |
| 0:20.2 | The presentation I would recommend you start with is Joseph Granny's presentation about what we can learn from Captain Maroni to help our loved ones overcome struggles with drugs and alcohol. |
| 0:30.5 | His story of how he loved his son through his addiction is powerful and |
| 0:34.8 | redemptive. You can listen to this presentation in the recovering Saints |
| 0:38.6 | library by going to leading Saints.org slash 14. Put your information in there and that will give you 14 days at no cost. |
| 0:46.0 | I made it easier for you and put the link in the show notes. |
| 0:50.0 | Or you can go to leading Saints. |
| 0:51.0 | org slash 1-4. or you can go to leading Saints. Or slash one four. |
| 0:56.3 | I got an email the other day from an individual, |
| 0:58.7 | I forget where he is in the world, |
| 1:00.1 | but he says, Kurt, I love leading Saints |
| 1:02.0 | and I listen to it every time I'm on the treadmill. |
| 1:05.6 | And then one time during an interview he heard that Leading Saints has a YouTube channel |
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| 1:41.3 | So regardless if you are on YouTube a lot or not, |
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