A critical question that I ask myself over and over again is, you know, can you put Humpty Dumpty back together again?

We are breaking a lot of things and mistakes are being made.

And I don't know if they can be fixed easily.

It will likely take 20 years to undo what we've seen done in the space of six months.

Thank you, everyone, for joining us for the Best People podcast. This week you're in for a treat because our guest this week is someone who I will admit to being intimidated by. She's a genius.

She knows everything about everything. She seems to know everyone from her different twists and turns

professionally. She hosts her own very, very successful podcast called Strict Scrutiny. When she talks,

John Stewart doesn't breathe because everything she says is so profound.

This is the Best People Podcasts, and this is Melissa Murray.

Thank you so much for doing this.

Thank you for having me, and that is the most generous introduction.

I want you to tell my teenagers all of this because they don't think I'm the best people.

But this is why you're so magical to me.

All of that is how I, I mean, being at MSNBC, we get to talk to some really smart, really

insightful, really amazing people and

broadcasters, which you were all those things. But when you do a long shift, which you just did

with me, a day long shift to shoot a promo, that's when you get to know your colleagues in a more

personal level. And we both sat down. I think it's not insulting to describe

both of us with sort of low-tech IQ. But we were we were we were plugging in mics and ordering

our sons, our kids lunch from DoorDash and Instacart, and the dogs were barking. And it's that

side of you that I was, it's like that section in

People Magazine, stars, they're just like you. Like, like, that's us, us magazine. Stars, they're just

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