here's the bottom line the american people are being lied to by this administration about who

they are going after and why and how and all you got to do is open both your eyes and watch television

listen to your broadcast and you realize that these are families these are fathers and daughters and mothers and sons and all of it who are caught in the middle of

this, not only and not primarily the worst of the worst.

Hi, everybody. Welcome to the Best People podcast. We are so lucky to have this week's

guest with us. The best people we have learned are usually

the ones carrying the brightest lights, and that is most certainly the case with this week's guest.

He's used his light as a public conscience and a tool for accountability. He has sought to shine

his journalist's eye on some of the most tragic and consequential chapters in recent months and

years. He's also fearless and funny and a whole lot of fun to be with. He is without a doubt

one of the best people I get to work with. So this is the best people and this is Jacob Soberoff.

Thank you for being here, my friend.

You know that the feeling is mutual, Nicole.

I know you know that.

Well, I'm so glad to get to do this because the one thing I always feel on the show is that there's never enough time.

Sometimes that's a good thing because I leave in tears,

but I'm glad to get to have this time with you.

Thank you sincerely for having me. I'm really excited to do this.

Let me start upside down.

Usually there is something happening in the streets

and you bring the actual stories to us and to our viewers.

Let me flip that around and ask you what the last six months have been like for you personally. Wow. You know, you know I live in L.A. and I'm from L.A.

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