Hi friends welcome back to the eater upsell Helen here Greg is over there and with us here in the studio is Melissa Clark

famous cookbook author and New York Times cooking columnist and generally lovely person

hi Melissa hello welcome to the ere upsell we're gonna talk columnist and generally lovely person. Hi Melissa.

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Okay, so as you know, I moved to, you know,

I live in Southern California now, and my apartment

is around a lot of fast food restaurants,

and I don't usually, I'm not like a huge fast food fan. I don't hate fast food. I just, when I lived in New York, I never ate it. I would always go to a bodega for a sandwich or whatever. But I am like literally one block away from like a Burger King, a McDonald's, a Pop Eyes,

at KFC, and a few other ones I can't even remember.

Like a fragrant Garden of Delights. I fail to see where the problem was.

Okay, well there's no problem, but you know, when I first moved to this area and I saw those, I said,

okay, I'm probably not really going to use them very often. But then I find that I'm now

going to one of these restaurants like maybe every other day for some reason.

Yes, this is the victory I take this very personally.

And, okay, so the reason is I'm driving around,

and sometimes I'm driving around, you know,

with my son in the back seat,

and it's a real pain in the ass to take a baby into any sort of store or anything.

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