I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of

the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present.

Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right

now. Thank you for being here. I'm glad to be here. Thank you for being here. You know,

I wanted you to be here after I read your book, Moment of Lift, because I had so many

a-haz personally reading it. I want to talk to you about that. But here's the real deal.

Anytime you say your name, people immediately think money. They just think money's flowing

out of your ears. It's everywhere. And they think, oh my God, your problems are not like

anybody else's problems because you can pay for your problems go away. And in this new

book, The Moment of Lift, great title, by the way, you write on page 140 how great wealth

can be very confusing. It can inflate and distort your sense of self, especially if you believe

that money measures merit. So I just was curious as to how you get to be you sitting in the

greatest wealth on earth and not be confused by money's measures and merit.

Well, I think it probably comes from the fact that I grew up in a very middle-class family

in Dallas, Texas. And we were working very hard. My parents were, and us as siblings, me

and my three siblings, to have enough money to send the four of us kids to college. And

we knew my dad's engineer, salary, wasn't going to pay for all of it. And so we had, they

had a property, a real estate business. And we were cleaning ovens and cleaning out people's

messes when they left over and running the finances. I kept the books. And I think growing

up in that sort of middle-class family with this dream of going to college, you remember

how important it is to get a great education. Like my parents were determined, I would get

a good education. But it set my values. I mean, that and my parents sent me to an all-girls

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