I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of

the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present.

Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right

now.

Elizabeth Gilbert came on tour with us last fall. And she is the delight that you imagine

her to be. And when I interviewed her for Super Soul Sunday, she told me her own spiritual

practice is literally to bring the light into every encounter that she has. And that's

what she's here to do for us today. She's here with her session. She calls the flight

of the hummingbird, the curiosity driven life. Elizabeth Gilbert.

Sweeties, sweet hearts. My loves were here in so much grace. Thank you, thank you so much.

So listen, I'm here today to do something that I have to be honest with you that I never

in a million years thought I would ever do. I am here today to speak out against passion.

You heard me right, against passion. And I know it sounds very strange and weird, but

I want you to stay with me on this, because I really believe that what I have to say here

today may bring a measure of comfort specifically to some of you in particular, and I'm hoping

it really will. But I have to back up for a minute and just say to come clean, that I'm

the least likely person in the world ever to have become a committed anti-passion spokeswoman.

The fact is that I have led my entire life guided by passion, particularly in regard

to my work as a writer, which is a vocation that I have been chasing my entire life with

a love that you could call obsessive. I can barely even remember a time before I knew

that I was going to be a writer, that I had to be a writer, that I needed to be a writer,

I was going to be a writer no matter what it took. I was probably like five or six. I

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