Hello Wine Embers, my name is Jesse Meakin with another episode of The Wine Em Podcast

where we teach you four rules to help you stop a paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt,

and save more money.

Today though, today we really aren't directly going to be talking about those three things.

I am very pleased to have with me a very, very special guest.

His name is Todd Curtis and he is the new as in about a year ago CEO of Wine Em.

I don't want to give away too much because we dive into all kinds of things.

We talk about how Todd found Wine Em.

We talk about his career before Wine Em.

His experience as a Wine Em user first and then his evolution through the Wine Em organization

to where he is very ably and capably managing the day to day and a lot of the future of

what was coming for Wine Em.

So I wanted everyone to have a chance to sit down as it were with Todd and hear from

the man himself and get to know him just a little bit.

So if this is a hit, maybe I'll have Todd come back on and we can hit other topics specifically.

But we dive into, I mean, everything.

So if you want a little bit of a behind the scenes look of how we do things at Wine Em.

This is the long episode for you.

This episode is much longer than we normally do.

I was going to break it up and decided, let's just give it to everybody and you can absorb

it in chunks or not at all if you're more just like, hey, I'm here for the budgeting,

not for the business, that kind of thing.

...