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So today's guest, we are bringing on Clayton.

He was on The Bachelorette.

He was a bachelor and now he's on the perfect match. He is quite the villain. But is he really? Who is Clayton? Is the question, is Clayton ready for true love? Dum bum bum. Here he comes. Hey, guys. How's it going? Hi. How are you? Good. I'm doing great. Good. Oh, look at that little grin. Clayton's like, what am I up against? Two women on a couch. This ought to be comfortable. Good morning. I thought this was going to be a one-on-one thing. I didn't realize I was going to be the outnumbered one. Don't act like you're not used to dating two girls at once. Clayton, welcome to Wilddown. There we go. You can handle us both. Bring another 28 of you guys in real quick. There you go. Clayton, Clayton. I'm Jana. This is Kristen. Hi, Clayton. Nice to meet you go. So, I mean, listen, I don't want you to feel ganged up on, but we are two scorned women.

So essentially, I'm going to get ganged up before. Okay. All right. We're about 20 years older than

your normal age group. So we have perspective on a lot of things. I think that, yeah, it's probably

refreshing. But no. Fair enough. Yeah. I'm all for accountability. Okay, good. I think do we go back? Also, I see, I see a 52 minutes on a timer, so you guys were already rolling. So did you already do some pre-talk before I came in here? No, we did some pre-clarification. We did. Great. I'm not to listen to it now. You guys are like, first off, just so you all know listeners, this guy sucks. He's about to come in the room. No, it did take a minute with your org chart, though, because it gets a little confusing with all the women, and then we went back and revisited a couple, so I just needed a second to get on it. I guess, like, my first thing is because, if I'm honest, right, I hear, I hear obviously all the things and you see the headlines and

I'm the first person that should know this is headlines are headlines. They're meant to be

not super kind and, you know, but I guess for you, what do you think people's perception of you is?

And then what is, like, who is Clayton?

Because I would love to get to know you as opposed to what I have been told about you.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

So, I mean, yes, it makes complete sense.

So who am I, which I love that question.

I, in fact, I feel like to bring it up myself.

It depends on who you ask.

So I know that my perception on social media and then my perception on reality television and then my real-life

persona are all different in a way. I would say that my social media perception and my real-life

version of me are very close, but the reality television version I feel is different from my

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