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An Arm and a Leg

Meet the Middleman’s Middleman

An Arm and a Leg

An Arm and a Leg

Society & Culture, Medicine, Health, Health & Fitness, Documentary

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2024

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Folks who expected their health insurance to cover some out-of-network care have been getting stuck with enormous bills instead. Like one couple from Kansas City: Their insurance hung them out to dry for thousands of dollars, all while sending statements touting a “discount” the couple was supposedly getting. 


Turned out: A middleman was cutting their coverage — actually a middleman’s middleman — working with their insurance company. The couple’s insurer got the “discount,” and the middlemen got big fees. 


And of course this couple wasn’t alone. A recent New York Times investigation from reporter Chris Hamby documented and explained this Russian-nesting-dolls-of-middlemen scheme. 


Insurance companies (middleman #1) work with a with a company called MultiPlan (middleman #2), which slashes the amounts the insurance plans actually pay for care.


To show how it all works — and what we can maybe do about it — we dive into the hidden mechanics of health insurance.  


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0:00.0

Hey there, Paul and Kristen live in Kansas City with their two kids.

0:04.3

Kristen and their daughter, the older kid, they have some complex medical issues.

0:08.4

Need to see some specialized folks.

0:10.5

And some of those folks don't take Kristen and Paul's insurance.

0:15.0

They're out of network.

0:17.0

So Kristen and Paul pay out of pocket a lot,

0:21.0

maybe $20,000 a year.

0:24.7

But their health insurance plan does reimburse

0:28.4

some out-of-network care.

0:30.2

So in January 2023, Kristen called a help line connected with the insurance plan to find out how that was going to work.

0:37.0

They basically said, sure, easy, easy, easy, easy, you pay and then you get online and you click this form, you show what you paid,

0:48.6

and then we send you a check and reimburse you.

0:50.8

Kristen was on it. She built a whole spreadsheet to track every bill she paid, every reimbursement form she had submitted, and she waited for the checks.

1:00.0

The insurance company gave itself months just to process the claims and when they finally sent statements

1:08.4

The statements seem weird they were like here's what you paid and here's your discounts and here's what you may owe.

1:17.0

And Kristen was like, what?

1:20.0

Because I was thinking, well I don't owe anything we paid out of pocket but then I was

1:26.3

thinking well this must be the portion that they're paying us back but then the

1:30.4

math didn't add up. Yeah, not at all.

1:34.2

Kristen was expecting to get 50% back,

1:36.8

like her plan said she would.

1:38.5

But this amount wasn't anything like 50%. And what's this discount business? It took months and a lot

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