Hello, Wineappers. My name is Jesse Mika and this is another episode of The Wineapp Podcast

where we teach you four rules to help you stop a paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt

and save more money. Today I am very, very happy to have with me on the show Nick Loper.

He helps people earn money outside of their day job. So he does this through books. He's

an author. He's an online entrepreneur and a host of the award-winning side hustle show

podcast. This is the cool part. They feature new part-time business ideas every single week.

And he also owns SideHustleNation.com and he just loves deconstructing the tactics and

strategies behind building extra income streams. And we talk about everything from should you

build this around your passion? What's the definition of a side hustle? How did Nick get

started in this? What about active versus passive income? How do you think that through

the ones of a side hustle? He also was kind of fun because he shared the little pain

points that people have and you can kind of just ask yourself, what bothers me? What sucks?

And then fix that. And that can become potentially a side hustle idea. He also drops some wisdom

around seasons and there is a time and a season for these things. So I don't want to give

away too much of the interview but it was thoroughly enjoyable to chat with Nick. He has

a passion for helping people not really find their passion and make money from it. That's

actually a little bit of danger there. But just in recognizing that they can diversify

their income streams, they can hit their financial goals by earning a little extra money or

sometimes a lot of extra money. So without further ado, my conversation with Nick Loper

of SideHustleNation.com.

All right. Nick, welcome to the YNAB podcast.

And Jesse, thanks for having me.

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