Hello there, Tapes from the Darkside listener.

I'm here to give you a quick update on season four of Tapes from the Darkside, but first,

I want to share with you a show that I not just think you would enjoy, I'm convinced that you would enjoy this true crime podcast.

It's called Defense Diaries, hosted by Bob Mata, and season one titled The Gasey Tapes is all about the infamous serial killer known as John Wayne Gacy.

Now this show has a very unique take and it's unlike any true crime podcast that is out there right now.

The host of the show when he turned, got one of the most unique birthday

presents that anyone could get, and that is 15 cassette tapes, never before heard by anyone

else that featured none other than John Wayne Gacy. I don't want to give any more away because I don't want to spoil any of these surprises in store for you.

I'm going to play a clip from their show and I urge you go and subscribe.

Just search defense diaries or in the show notes.

I'm going to have a link to their website and give

it a shot.

I think you will be hooked right away.

It is quickly becoming one of the most popular true crime podcasts out there.

And without further ado, this is defense diaries.

Wow, what an introduction.

I'm Bob Mata and here's just a little taste of what you can expect from Defense Diaries.

Welcome to Defense Diaries, a true crime podcast.

I'm your host, Bob Mata, and this is Season 1, The Gacy Tapes.

Throughout this season, I'll be playing excerpts from audio cassettes that contain about 15 hours of pretrial interviews between Gacy and his trial attorneys.

That aside from a few minutes licensed to A&E for an American Justice episode, have never been heard

by anyone other than his lawyers and myself. On my 21st birthday, my father gave me what I consider

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