Welcome to Karen Hunter's awesome. I am Karen Hunter and I'm committed to bringing forth names that you haven't heard before because I feel like we stick on the same ones. You know, there's Martin Luther King, there's Malcolm X, Harry Tubman.

They're all brilliant people, Frederick Douglass, W.B. Du Bois, but there's so many people that have

done amazing things. So up next, a conversation with patent attorney, Shantavia Johnson,

and she evokes the name of Marion Rogers Croke, C-R-O-A-K.

Who is she?

Stay tuned to find out.

Welcome back to another session with Shantavia J. Esquire, Shantavia Johnson, patent intellectual property attorney extraordinaire.

She's sharing with us these series.

We're doing a whole series on inventors and patent creators or patent

makers because it's important that we understand the value that we put into the world.

The world needs to know. So who are we going to be talking about now, Shontavia? Thank you.

I'm excited. I'm so excited about this one because this person is still alive. We often talk

about black inventors as if they're things they had it a long time ago. This is a black woman named Marion Rogers Croke. Marion Rogers Croke. She is still alive. She's born in 1955. How do you saw Coak? Croke, C-R-O-A-K.

C-R-O-A-K.

And she is the vice president of engineering at Google.

Oh.

She is one of the most senior-ranking black women at Google.

Google has, what, 200 or 300,000 employees? She's one of the most senior-ranking black women at Google. Google has, what, 200 or 300,000 employees? She's one of the most senior

ranking black women at Google. And what does she? So tell me about her, and I never heard of her until

today. So let me just, again, I can't thank you enough for doing this because in media, they tend

to lean into the same people all the time, you know, the same people, the same five people pushed in front of us.

So we only think there's only five people doing stuff, you know.

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