America is deeply divided. There are only two sides to every issue and there is no interest in finding common ground, not even with members of your own family.

But as the 2024 presidential election looms on the horizon, there has never been a more important time to have the necessary conversation.

Welcome to the third episode of The Necessary Conversation. This is a show about a family,

my family, who essentially doesn't talk to each other anymore because of contemporary politics.

And that's been the case for around six years, really, maybe even longer, actually.

Maybe it started having during Obama.

That's something we're going to get to the bottom of in this podcast.

But you've met my mom in the first episode.

You've met my dad, Bob, in the second episode.

Now you are going to meet the fourth and final member of

the Colchin family. She is a mother of three. She is a small business owner in a very red state.

She herself is very not red. She is a skydiver. She is a motorcycle rider. She is head to toe tattooed she's a general badass it is

my pleasure and my honor to introduce my sister haley welcome to the show thank you thanks for

having me can't wait my pleasure so let me start out uh asking you some questions that are similar to how i kind of

introduce mom and dad by going through your political history okay so what do you remember

when you were a kid did you have any kind of political leaning at all as As a kid, no.

I don't, I mean, I was trying to remember as far back as I possibly could.

I remember mom and dad, like, talking about Ronald Reagan.

I remember, like, the whole say no to drugs campaign as we experienced entry school.

I feel like maybe that was my introduction to politics as a child,

but even then I didn't understand that that was political.

So no, I like politics was not even on my radar as a kid,

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