Welcome back to another episode of On the Line.

I'm already giggling with my guest today.

His name is Will Williams.

I'm not convinced that's actually his real name, but he is, I don't know if you want to say

meditation guru, meditation expert, meditation leader, cult leader.

Oh, cheesy.

What would you call yourself, Will?

I see myself very simply as a teacher actually.

Okay, he's a teacher.

And he's already taken his shoes off, I assume, to become more grounded in this conversation.

Absolutely.

But basically, I really wanted to have you on the show, Will, because I did one of your courses.

I don't know when that would have

been a couple of months ago now. Meditation is something I've been interested in. I was like, maybe this is for me, maybe it's not, but I wanted to see what it was all about. I got an email saying, would you like to come along to one of, I don't know if it was like your publicist or something? and I was like, what actually that sounds like a good thing for me so I did the course I found it very

interesting I really loved the whole initial ceremony etc which I want to get into

more depth of depth of meditation but I want to start this off by talking about your

story your journey towards meditation,

because I assume you didn't come out of the birth canal meditating.

Absolutely not. No, I came out of the birth canal causing mischief from day one.

And yeah, I was very far away from all of this. I lived a very, very rock and roll life from a very early age and continued that by going into the music industry because then I could actually be a professional rock and roller.

What does that mean? Drug, sex, alcohol?

Absolutely, all of it.

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