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Media Roots Radio - Interview with Trevor Paglen, Experimental Geographer, Artist & Author

Media Roots Radio

Abby & Robbie Martin

News

4.6827 Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2011

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

MEDIA ROOTS- Trevor Paglen's work deliberately blurs the lines between science, contemporary art, journalism, and other disciplines to construct unfamiliar, yet meticulously researched ways to see and interpret the world around us. Paglen’s visual work has been exhibited at several art museums worldwide and his writing and art have been published in major publications including The New York Times, Wired, Vanity Fair and Newsweek. Paglen holds a B.A. from UC Berkeley, an M.F.A. from the School of the Art Institute of Chicago, and a Ph.D. in Geography from UC Berkeley, where he remains an affiliated researcher. In the 90s, Paglen was a member of a locally revered bay area noise/experimental project called Noise Gate, and co-ran an infamous underground venue in downtown Oakland called the Sandcrawler. His electronic music background hugely inspired co-host Robbie Martin in his own musical evolution. Paglen is also the author of several books: Torture Taxi, the first book to comprehensively cover the CIA's extraordinary rendition program; I Could Tell You But Then You Would Have to be Destroyed by Me, a book looking at the world of black projects through unit patches and memorabilia created for top-secret programs; and Blank Spots on the Map: The Dark Geography of the Pentagon's Secret World, a book that gives a broader look at secrecy in the United States. http://www.mediaroots.org/interview-with-experimental-geographer-artist-trevor-paglen.php http://www.MediaRoots.org

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The Welcome to Media Roots Radio. This is your host, Abby Martin. Please consider donating to grassroots projects. We're offering free art and music for every $40 donation and more.

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So please consider donating to independent journalism if you want to see these broadcasts continue.

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Thanks so much for listening.

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Trevor was one of the first to write a comprehensive book about the CIA's rendition and torture program called Torture Taxi.

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He also wrote a book called If I Told You You Would Have to Be Destroyed by Me, which is a book

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cataloging secret covert black ops programs by the United States government.

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And it's also kind of a coffee table book

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featuring pictures of actual patches and insignias

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from these black ops programs,

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which are pretty amazing.

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Trevor is also into what's called experimental geography.

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And Trevor was also in a noise group called Noise Gate.

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