Hey guys, welcome back to a very special episode of Unpopular because I have Heidi

fucking Montag on the pod today. I mean, the legend herself. This is a lifelong dream

fulfilled. I've been trying to make this happen

since I was fucking out of the womb, basically. But you know what? I think that Lauren Conrad may

have cursed the interview because we had all these Wi-Fi problems at the start, then Chunky

started barking, then Heidi had to get Gunner to bed, like, there was a lot going on,

but don't worry, we still had a great interview, and Heidi shared a lot, she's so sweet,

we got to the bottom of her meat diet and her music career and her plastic surgery, all of it.

I had a lot of nice messages from people on Instagram about it when I said that I was having Heidi on.

There were a couple of haters like, ah, why do you like these two?

It's like, how do you not like Heidi and Spencer?

I mean, have you ever listened to them?

They're really nice.

I don't know why people hate them.

Like, what have they actually done besides storylines on the hills? They haven't really

done anything bad. You know, I've been telling Heidi and Spencer to take their new Pratt

Daddy spin-off that they're shopping around to the Zeus network. You know, Zeus has like

Black China, Natalie Nunn from the Bad Girls Club, Jocelyn's Cabaret, which is crazy.

I know those shows are like Outside of the Hills demo, but I feel like Zeus might want to expand.

And they could get a new audience with Spidey on board, but you know, maybe they're a little,

they might be a little too hardcore for Spidey now that I think

about it. Because if you guys watched Jocelyn's Cabaret, that's next level. Go on YouTube,

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