Mea Culpa w/ George Newbern
That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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4.5 • 7.3K Ratings
🗓️ 5 May 2026
⏱️ 119 minutes
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Summary
This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “Mea Culpa” (Season 20, Episode 9) and discuss the infamous murder of Stanford White by Harry Kendall Thaw following the rape of Evelyn Nesbit. Plus, they interview the wonderful George Newbern.
SOURCES:
BBC
The New York Times
Wikipedia - Evelyn Nesbit
Library of Congress
Avenue Magazine
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Tragic Life of Evelyn Nesbit: The Murder That Shocked America
Next week’s episode will be “Constricted” (Season 26, Episode 4).
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| 0:00.0 | This is exactly right. |
| 0:06.0 | Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. |
| 0:10.5 | We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the vicious felonies these episodes are based on. |
| 0:15.4 | These are our stories. |
| 0:16.9 | Dun dun. Dund. |
| 0:37.4 | Yay, that's messed up an SVU podcast. |
| 0:38.7 | I'm Lisa Travecord. |
| 0:42.7 | That's a new one. |
| 0:44.4 | That is new. |
| 0:45.4 | Wow. |
| 0:49.7 | It's episode 283, and Lisa said her own name wrong. |
| 0:53.6 | I don't know what happened. |
| 0:57.5 | Like a truck made a noise and I got distracted mid-name. |
| 1:03.6 | Well, I am Lisa Trager and we do, we talk crime. |
| 1:06.4 | We do SVU and we have guests. |
| 1:08.2 | And that's my co-host, Kara Clunk. |
| 1:09.9 | And I'm Kara Clumpf. |
| 2:51.4 | And it's so nice to meet you all. Clumpy. Wait, so, okay. So first of all, we obviously chat up top. And last week, Lisa was telling me about how she went to go see Lost Boys. And then ever since then, obviously, nonstop on my feed, Danny Pino saw it. What? Danny Pino? Oh, saw the Lost Boys. I thought he messaged us. Oh, gosh. No, sorry. No. Sorry, I worded that wrong. Danny Pino listened to the pod now. No, I think after he was a guest, he was like, I've had enough. But all these people I've just been seeing go to it, and I feel like a lot of them are our former guests. Well, everyone is going, and now I've learned that, like, a friend's husband is the director. Like, everyone's connected. It's just, like, it keeps growing. And then, like, Marcia and Drew Anderson, about, like, people are buying tickets. And then Marshall tickets. And then Marcia was like, that's, that's word of mouth. Like you can't buy that kind of press. You know what I mean? I guess we did on. But like, it's like if something is good and people are chatting, like people are going to go. So it is exciting. Oh, yeah. Rest to short, anything we talk about at the beginning of this podcast is not sponsored. Like, we are just worth-mouthing stuff. Like, we are just telling you things we genuinely like or don't like. No, people are, like, really having a good time. But I saw Larry Owens went, and so I messaged him, like, I saw it, I loved it. And he goes, okay, vampire diva. And I go, I would like to be called that from now on. So when you saw me get excited about a text is because he called me a vampire diva. Vampire diva. Love that. So it got me really excited. I actually, okay, so remember we had Olivet on Dr. Olivet and she was how Annette Benning's daughter is in a play with Hugh Jackman. I saw that on Sunday. |
| 2:55.2 | Say what it's called again? |
| 2:57.4 | Sexual misconduct of the middle classes, I think. Okay. So I got invited and I got to, |
| 3:05.1 | I went to Manetta Tavern. I went to the show for free. So we had the best dinner. I've never been in Manetta Tavern. So I was so excited. I called at like three something. And I was like after my Justin Bieber soul cycle. But I was like, do you got anything? And they did. So I felt really cool in New Yorkie. I will say I have a lot to say. I got blacked out. It was an open bar. We went to Hugh Jackman's bar for the after party. Oh. Annette Benning was at Manetta Tavern. We saw her walk by. So that was like a thrill for sure. So it was like a reception and the show. Was it like opening night? No, that's what they said. |
| 3:41.3 | They're like, it's not opening or closing. So basically there's this director. He's directing three simultaneous shows that are happening. Corey Stoltz is in one of them. He was at the party. Fucking hot. I like made a lap just to look at him. And I was happy I did that. And so, Cessaly Strong was there. Like, I guess it's just like something the audible theater is doing, Medved. |
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