Hello, Robcast listeners. This is not Rob Bell. This is Trace Bell opening up this episode for the first time.

I am here with my esteemed colleague, yes, Robert Bell. And we are here for the 298th episode of the Robcast.

I mean, I can't believe you've done 298th. I mean, you're just patting your stats at this point.

I mean, this is like, this is like, this is like more than like the most like receiving yards.

I think a wide receiver's ever got in game. I think we're like, these numbers are just getting crazy.

Patting my stats. Patting your stats. Oh, that's my next book. Patting my stats.

That's why I said the line is I was just like, it's suddenly dropping in there. Just make tons of stuff.

That's all just quantity over quality. That's what that's what we're about.

Okay, so this is part four of me, we and everybody in which you and I have taken all of these different models

for how human beings grow, evolve, unfold in the world, expand. And we started with that stick figure

of the single person me. Then we moved to two stick figures, the line under them, we,

which is what how we relate to each other, how you conventional wisdom. Here's how we do things.

And then we moved from there to a whole series of stick figures with a circle, which was the world.

So there's me, there's my people, and then there's everybody. And then we took people through

the colors and that's some of called it spiral dynamics, first and second to your consciousness.

Archaic, beige, purple, we sort of made our own divisions. Yeah, purple,

mad, synthesized, like a lot of the red, our blue, traditional orange, modern, green, sort of

world centric pluralist postmodern, then you have second tier, which takes you into yellow,

turquoise, coral, and on. And that point you're a spiral wizard. That's you're in the spiral

wizard title of that point. At that point, you just dissolve into a puddle of oneness.

Yeah. Just in what you are everything. All sensations, perceptions flowing through your impermeable

consciousness. So we're going to, we have all sorts of ground to cover in this one. But first,

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