Hey, Newmakers, welcome to the show where it's all about financial freedom with real estate.

Let's do this.

Tonight of show, I have Steve Libman, and he got involved in the commercial real estate, probably 2017 when I first met him.

He had built a significant wholesaling and

flipping business. I think he did like 7,000 transactions over like 7 to 10 years. It's a wild

scale that he created. And also he explained why he got into commercial because he was paying

too much in taxes. Different motivators get people out of doing different things. Most of the time,

it's, oh my gosh, flips and hole failing is too much work. It's too active. It's not passive enough.

And they are. But he had built a pretty sizable business that allowed him to outsource and

delegate a lot of those things, which he talks about on a show, interesting in itself. And he was

able to then pivot into commercial simply by leveraging what he'd already

built. He had a team on board already doing transactions and negotiating and analyzing, and

it had raised money, and he then simply pivoted a little bit to commercial real estate.

So because of that, he was able to scale rather rapidly. Today, he has about a half a billion

dollars of real estate under management.

He's got a really, really interesting approach not only to make money, but also to make a

difference and how he approaches his multifamily and how he manages, how he builds communities,

and how he actually does good while doing well himself as well. So he talks about that.

He talks about raising capital at scale and getting

more into institutional type investors. What does that look like? What is what is that like as well?

And then we jam a little bit about the outlook of multifamily market and trajectory and different

kinds of asset classes and things of nature. So we cover a lot of ground on this episode. Let's get

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