Hey, dealmakers, welcome to the show where it's all about financial freedom with real estate.

Let's do this.

So today I'm going to give you behind-the-scenes look at Nighthawk Equity, which is our investment

firm, a private equity investment firm, and we've historically been investing in multifamily.

And today, to join me is going to be Drew Niffin, my partner. And we're going to go back. How we started Nighthawk, what happened back then, how we did it, how we scaled it. We talk about, you know, two and a half years ago, what happened last two and a half years and how it's been a challenging time and what we've been doing to navigate that time. And hopefully that will allow you to understand a little bit what's going on in two and a half years. But we also talk about the future of Nighthawk, what we see in a multifamily market. And I also have a surprise announcement. I'm going to make at the end as well about the direction of Nighthawk as well. So let's get right here into the conversation with Drew Niffin. Drew, what's going on? Welcome to the show today. And, Michael, glad to be back. Thanks for bringing me on. Yeah, yeah. You're busy running a $300 million portfolio, but I appreciate it coming on. I think we want to give people just a little bit of behind the scenes look at Nighthawk Equity, which is our investment company. And let's talk about how it got started because obviously you were started,

you were here from the very beginning. When was it like 2017 or something?

2017. Yep. So coming up on a decade together. That's pretty wild. Yep. I remember I met you,

we had some kind of like, we had a deal desk thing going on. So I remember when I went online, you know, we created this, this community and people were bringing me deals. And I had the SDA, a syndicated deal analyzer. And so we had this little bit of thing where people could submit deals to me and like, and then partner with me. And so I think the first few deals that I had done was in this kind of joint

venture capacity. And then I don't even know how I met you. I think I brought you on a podcast.

I think so that's a little bit different than that. So you had the the SDA that you could buy and I bought it

for 97 bucks or something a long time ago. And I wrote you an email and I'm like, hey, I just bought a 32 unit apartment building using this thing.

It's really great.

And you're like, well, come on my podcast.

And literally, that was the first time I'd ever heard of a podcast.

This is a long time ago.

I'm like, okay.

It was 2014.

It might have been 2014.

Talked about it for a while.

Yeah. And then if you remember, then we met up, uh, down in Houston and, uh, talked and that was at the, uh, event for lifestyles. And things went on from there. But yeah, the deal, the deal desk was a big part of that too. Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's exactly right. I think I started the, uh, I started the podcast in 2014 2014. I think we have our 500th episode coming up here as well. And so that's pretty cool. I was doing podcast before. It was like a thing. And I got to kind of understand your story. Then we did this deal thing. This was probably a couple of year or two later afterwards. We did this deal desk thing and you were were kind of, you know, looking at all the deals that were coming in. And so I kind of saw,

hey, this guy knows, he knows numbers, he knows underwriting. You kind of enjoy doing it.

And we were involved in some of the joint ventures we did in the early days. And that's pretty

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