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Uh-oh.

The show's starting.

I guess it means I need to do my introduction.

Do I seem nervous?

Folks, I have such a special guest that even I am tongue-tied. Yes, even I, Eric

Metaxus, I am sitting here in the studio right here. I could touch him with somebody that I have long

admired, even that's putting it mildly. His name, I think you're familiar with him, is Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.

Mayor Giuliani, I really, I hardly know how to begin, so I will fump for my way through.

It is simply a joy to have you here.

I'm honored that you would come to this dumpy studio. I'm kidding. I'm

kidding. Old New York and here I am with. I'm with the author of a book that probably is one of the

best I've read in the last 10 years, which I, which I, last night. Which I have witnesses to because I gave

them several copies. When we were, I had the privilege of dinner with you last night and we were talking and you mentioned that you'd read my Bonhofer book, I just about fell out of my chair because honestly, I, you know, you never know who's reading your books. But you had a lot of readers to that book. It's not unusual. Someone recommended it to me and said, because they know I like to read books about religion and theology and said, you're going to love this book. So I had no, and I read it, and I thought it was terrific, and I gave it to three or four other people. I want to spend the first 30 minutes with you praising my work. Can we do that? Let's do that. No, I want to, listen, because I have you here, I want to talk to you about everything. I want to talk to you.

You have very recently, I mean, you've had such an extraordinary career that it's very difficult to,

even to know where to begin. For those younger people who are tuning in, I need to start by saying that you were, by the estimation of anybody who pays attention

to such things, one of the greatest mayors in the history of the country and certainly

in the history of New York, as far as I'm concerned, you were easily the best mayor of New York.

And you did something that it doesn't seem possible a human being could do without God's help.

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