Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug. Each episode here,

we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process,

on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

who swears that music just sounded better on the bandwidth of AM radio,

or else a scrappy upstart, who uses software to make your mixing bus sound like a degraded tube console from the 1970s.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most an ironclad excuse to put off

actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the third Friday of August 2025, and I thank you for joining us.

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