Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host

Joe Pug. Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So,

whether you're a grizzled veteran who swears that music just sounded better on the

bandwidth of AM radio, or else a scrappy upstart, who uses a software to make your master

mixing bus sound like a degraded tube console from the 1970s. This is your show, because ultimately

it is what every writer seeks most,

an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey, everybody, it's the 4th Friday of July 2025, and I thank you for joining us.

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