Hello and thanks for joining me. It is Sunday the 30th of May and here's the latest on travel and destinations from the Green List and in particular from Heathrow Terminal 5.

I'm waiting for a flight out to Gibraltar and while I'm here I thought I would give you the benefit of my experience here

today. So I'll be looking at how different the flying experience is. Also, as Europe turns green,

is the UK going red and what's the outlook for Eurostar trains in the coronavirus era?

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Like you, I imagine, I've spent very little time at airports in the past year.

I'm delighted today to be flying to Gibraltar, along with it looks like, pretty much a playload of other people.

I'm at gate B34 of Terminal 5, and there's a huge scrum waiting to get on and people being people

there is quite a lot of crowding everyone seems to be wearing masks but even so social distancing

is not particularly in evidence let's run through the sequences involved in a journey to and through an airport these days.

Well, just getting to Heathrow or another airport could be more difficult because of the

reduction in surface transport.

That's entirely understandable.

Why would you run for Heath throw express trains an hour when ultimately

there's not enough passengers to fill one. So that has happened quite significantly. I think the

way that we will get to enjoy the previous amount of services simply when passenger numbers build up.

But bear in mind that everybody has lost an awful lot of money.

Heathrow Express, for instance, which is a handy little money maker for Heathrow is most certainly

going to be turning in a loss.

And don't forget that Crossrail, which is currently about three years late,

when that finally opens, that's going to have quite an effect as well.

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