Now, you've entered the powercast with your host, Jane Steinberg and David Beedney.

Now, when we had Jim Mosley on separately and we had Alan Greenfield on separately, I asked them a question. Back in the mid-60s, we all took a trip to the Midwest, culminating in a visit

to the farm of the late Ray Palmer.

Okay.

But we met up with a number of people prior to that, including in a hotel room, Jacques

Valais.

Now, Jim doesn't remember this, right?

Not off in.

Alan, you do remember it.

Yes, I remember it in detail.

In fact, may I do a little bit of the backstories so that it will make context?

Please, please.

Don't make it over two hours, all right?

Actually, it's going to be two hours and three minutes.

Go ahead.

Just my usual brief assertion of the backstory.

So lean back, relax.

And we go back to putting Jean and I up to going to 1536 Connecticut Avenue, Washington, D.C.

At that time, Zone 6, for those who remember zones, which are few and far

between, in order to prevail upon major keyhole and Dickie Tricky Hall who asked me to take

him off my mailing list, which I obligingly did since I have no mailing list as such. But in any case,

that's just recently, by the way, people that hold grudges for a long time. That was way back

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