All right, for those of you who listen to this show on a daily basis, the show might sound a little bit different today, and that is because

well, the studio, the Camp Clark and Chicken Palace, Thrive Time Show studio at, you know, the Camp Clark and Chicken Palace, where I live, is currently under water. You see, we had flash floods that hit Tulsa, Oklahoma, and it's a crazy deal, but I found out that about four feet of water mixed with equipment doesn't

work very well. And so we have, I found out that Apple computers and microphones can be fastening flotation devices that don't float, so they're sinking devices, but they're paper weights, but the show must go on. So here we are at 328 in the morning, we're about 30 minutes into editing today's podcast, and I can tell you what, there's only so much that you can do with canned air and backup equipment. So you might hear some, you know, audio,

faux pos, but today's guest is absolutely great. His name is Max Lucato, and he is a best-selling author of over 50 books, and on today's show, he's going to share with us how he landed his first book deal after 14 rejections with publishers. Oh, come on. Who let the wookies in here? I know this is a backup studio, but no, we haven't have a new rule. No wookies in the studio. On today's show, Max Lucato shares his process.

Or as the Canadians would say, his process for writing his books, how he gained attraction with his literary career, and much, much more. And by the way, he just wrote a new book on how to become a genuinely happy person when you're pushing through adversity. What reminds me of us right now? How could you possibly be a happy person at 329 in the morning after you've been up for a full hour, and you only slept three or four hours a day before?

And all of your gears destroyed, and your basements destroyed, the question I would have for you is, are you a happy person if you're only happy when things are going good? Because that's the real test, right? Because yesterday was complete disaster. The show goes on, and you deserve the absolute best quality content possible. Check, you deserve for your host to show up nine days a week. Check, and you deserve good audio quality. Let me get that can there.

Not, not check, but we are working on it.

Everything's under control, situation normal. What happened? His weapons malfunction, but everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here. Now, thank you. How are you?

Two men, 13 multi-million-dollar businesses, eight kids. Get ready to enter the Thrive Time Show.

We started from the bottom and we'll show you how to get here. We started from the bottom. Now, we've started from the bottom. Now, we've started from the bottom.

Yes, yes, yes.

Alright, Thrive Nation, welcome back to another exciting edition of the Thrive Time Show on your radio and podcast download.

And on today's show, we are interviewing the New York Times best-selling author multiple time, best-selling author,

mr. max lucato max welcome on to the show how are you sir

i'm doing super i really am uh... thank you and it's it's a great honor to

to be on the broadcast

well i i i i i know you've had a lot of success in your career

and a lot of our listeners have read your books or no of your books

uh... could you tell us about the bottom of the or the the very beginning of

your career

uh... what was your life like growing up and how did it impact who you've

become today

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